Critics’ Reactions to the Jaime/Cersei Rape Scene in Episode 4.3 of Game of Thrones
"I wonder, then, if the rape was on some level a misguided attempt to give Cersei even more pathos, a la the convenient backstory rapes that have become depressingly common on prestige TV (and Scandal)…I wonder if TV Thrones‘s writers just have a tendency to change problematic book sex scenes into clear scenes of unconsensual sex.” - Hillary Busis, Entertainment Weekly
“Game of Thrones has a rape problem.” - Kevin Spak, Newser
"In the original depiction, Jaime never says “Why have the Gods made me love a hateful woman?” — a line that the TV show added in, which in context makes Jaime look like an abusive rapist (the gods made me do it!)”- Darren Franich, Entertainment Weekly
Jaime forced himself upon Cersei despite her demands to stop. “It’s not right,” she cried, to which Jaime snarled, “I don’t care.”…we can never unsee that godawful scene. - Leanne Aguilera, E! Online
"If this scene really just is a miscalculation in direction (and potentially the writing of Benioff and Weiss, neither of whom have yet commented on it) and doesn’t get any payoff later in the season, then it truly deserves all the criticism it has been receiving.” - Terri Schwartz, Zap2It
The director who shot the scene and the man who acted in it both believe it wasn’t necessarily nonconsensual sex— an attitude that isn’t totally surprising in a society that’s deeply confused about what constitutes consent, and that doesn’t always recognize sexual violence for what it is. -Tara Culp-Ressler, ThinkProgress
So then Jaime … well … no other way to put this, really. He rapes his sister beside their corpse of their murdered son. This is the same guy who protected Brienne from a similar fate last year. - James Hibberd, Entertainment Weekly
"…the show’s overall treatment of women as disposable objects onto whom physical and emotional violence are relentlessly enacted. Sexual violence is so pervasive on the show that nearly every woman on the show has been raped or threatened with rape. The show, and the books, reveal the disturbing and cavalier facility with which rape becomes a narrative device.Rape is used to punish. Rape is used to make a woman more sympathetic or to explicate their anger or other unlikable qualities. Rape is used to put women in their place.” -Roxane Gay, Salon
"The entire scene in the sept was an exercise in Cersei’s belittlement. She watched her father degrade and dishonor (albeit truthfully) her firstborn’s legacy and then manipulate her youngest into serving as his marionette. Then, on the floor next to the body of her dead son, the only man she’s ever taken into her confidence abused that trust in the most vile way imaginable.” - Hillary Kelly, The New Republic
"A giggling dead body would have at least taken our attention away from, you know, the raping." - Johnny Brayson, wetpaint
"Whether the show meant it to come across that way or not, what we saw was a rape.” - Erik Kain, Forbes
"The scene, which has Cersei pleading “stop it” repeatedly and struggling against Jaime, appears far from consensual." - Margaret Wappler, Los Angeles Times
In the show there’s no other way to interpret it as unambiguous rape. Jaimie isn’t loving when he tries to have sex with her in the show, he’s shown as being angry and hateful, cursing her for being a wicked woman. There’s no point in the scene on the show that we can see Cersei consent, which makes the whole scene significantly different from the book. Some readers have pointed out that the rape in the show is damaging for Cersei’s character arc since she had to endure the marriage to Robert Baratheon in which he essentially engaged in marital rape, Her consensual sex was always with Jaimie who made her feel safe. Jaimie raping her in the show completely destroys their relationship and destroys the trust she has in Jaimie leaving her without anyone. - AJ, the Digital Times
The rewritten scene also takes away all of Cersei’s agency. In the original text, Cersei chooses to have sex with Jaime, grotesque as it and the setting may be — because she wants to, or because she uses sex to manipulate, it doesn’t matter. Cersei has power and control. The scene in the show deprives her of all of that. - Amelia McDonell-Parry, The Frisky
His response is not to stop loving her, not to stop believing that he is victim to the gods. Instead, Jaime rapes his sister, passing that sense of unendurable pain on to her. He must know that this is the worst possible way that he could hurt her. Jaime knew that Robert raped Cersei, and in the novels, he wanted to kill Robert for it. Not only does raping Cersei remind his sister of her repeated, humiliating violation, Jaime is poisoning their own relationship, the thing that had been Cersei’s antidote to the miseries of her marriage. It is an exceptionally cruel thing for Jaime to do. - Alyssa Rosenberg, Washington Post.
It’s hard to shake the idea that Game Of Thrones, the show, doesn’t see a problem with pushing a scene from complicated, consensual sex to outright rape. It would be easier to accept that idea if it were clear what the show was trying to do with those changes. - Sonia Saraiya, AV Club
If Graves intended to depict consensual sex in the end, he completely failed. This wasn’t even one of those terribly clichéd scenes where a man starts raping a woman only to find that she comes around to thinking it’s hot. Cersei is still kicking and protesting when the camera cuts away. It’s as straightforward a rape scene as you’ll get on TV, unless you buy the ridiculous myth that a woman can’t be raped if she’s consented to sex with a man before. - Amanda Marcotte, Slate
This isn’t the first rape scene in Game of Thrones—far from it. And there’s been controversy over the show’s use of rape before. But what makes this scene the most upsetting one yet is that the director didn’t realize he was filming a rape scene…Whether or not the creators intended this to be a rape scene is irrelevant; they made one anyway. And worse, they made one that encourages the most dangerous thinking about rape imaginable. - Laura Hudson, Wired
"How will victims of sexual assault be affected when a director and actor in one of television’s most popular shows questions whether no really means no?" - Eliana Dockterman, Time Magazine
I’ll go ahead and say it: Jaime Lannister has become a rape cliché. He’s the boss, like every other on-screen rapist we’ve ever seen. - Hayley Krischer, Salon
"I’m not opposed to shows depicting sexual violence, but rape-as-prop is always distressing…Rape and abuse have consequences for the victims who carry those traumas with them. While I don’t know exactly how the show will depict the aftermath of Jamie raping Cersei, GoT does not have a strong track record of acknowledging or exploring the lingering effects of surviving sexual assault." - Margarey Lyons, Vulture/New York Magazine
"I can’t think of any comparable defense for the rape scene in "Breaker of Chains," which feels like a naked and ill-conceived attempt to push Game of Thrones into even darker territory. …I’m concerned that Game of Thrones has made a mistake it can’t take back — and one that sets a troubling precedent for the show’s future.” - Scott Meslow, The Week
The Game of Thrones Rape Scene Was Unnecessary and Despicable….The fact that showrunners might be asking us to overlook this for the sake of character development is downright insulting and says a lot about how we treat victims, especially the ones who come off as unlikable. - Madeleine Davies, Jezebel.com
Is “Game of Thrones” Obsessed With Sexual Assault?…Frankly, there are some weeks when “Game of Thrones” doesn’t seem worth the effort. - Sam Adams, IndieWire
Why I stopped watching Game of thrones. This is not the first time the tv show actually removed consent from sex. It’s not just showing the sexual assault in the book it’s creating it for drama.
i was reading an article on french postcolonial cinema and there was an argument made that while a film can be racist, imperialist-nostalgic trash which privileges the white french person, you can’t deny the importance of the audience. e.g. indochine is a shit movie in every way possible but diasporic audience might (and did) appreciate the presence of linh dan pham.
to me that’s ridiculous. i mean, i’m not beyond latching onto a single woman of colour in an otherwise racist film. but i just can’t accept that my own, or an audience’s own, oppositional reading of a film can recuperate it from its racism, and from the racism that it generates or accepts within a larger dominant discourse.
like, i love josphine baker. and when i watch her films i’m definitel not doing it in the right/white way. i’m not seeing her as an exotic object who needs to make way for the white woman in the white man’s life; instead i appreciate her artistry, her glamour, her talent. i’m not watching zouzou for the plot so much as the point of identification it might provide and the glorification of baker that it does provide. but i’m not going to act like she wasn’t forced to exploit colonial stereotypes for a white gaze in order to be successful. or i’m not going to act like anna may wong playing innumerable “lotus blossom”s was empowering. it’s something to be able to see someone like you one screen, who is beautiful and glamourous and maybe fleetingly is loved, but it’s still hardly anything.
personal, oppositional readings and reclamations of films are very important. but they do not negate how the film was or is still read within a white supremacist society that thrives on the racism and colonialism that makes these films possible.
So our trailer went out today—with a release date!
Also, the new Dragon Age website went up—which I understand will have a lot of updates to come. That’s good.
My impression of the fan reaction so far has been mostly squeeing and excited grabby hands. Also a lot of screencaps of the group shot at the end of the video, along with comments of “who’s that?” and “we’re gonna bang, k?” …in other words, pretty standard and positive stuff.
Aaaand then I’m back to writing another codex.
Just stumbled upon this tweet from February: Neil calling out Mental Floss for lightening his skin.
the idea of “but he’s such a good guy, he would never assault a woman!” is actually disgusting.
like, whether applied to game of thrones or real life.
shit tons of women gettin raped, threatened with rape, or murdered only to have their dead bodies pornographically displayed for the camera for no canon reason: apparently just cool to people watching GOT and if you complain about it you’re some whiny feminist
D&D step away from the books yet again to make ~golden prince jaime~ into a rapist, who btw rapes his sister right beside their son’s dead body and she’s already a survivor of rape and abuse: THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE ……. character assassination of Jaime but Cersei is the worst so whatever
this fandom is trash and you should all be ashamed
2 days ago · 9 notes
people in the fucking tag like “I’m actually the angriest about what this means for Jaime bc Cersei’s a bitch anyway” can choke
2 days ago · 4 notes
cool Game of Thrones finally crossed a final line for me I’m done w/ this show, the book series, the fandom etc. bye
2 days ago · 1 note
me at everyone with some semblance of narrative control on game of thrones right now
jesus tooks some of your followers
it’s ok for me to make that joke i was raised in a heavily religious home
i’m offended anyway but this does sound like a pretty typical thing for a dude to do
3 days ago · 1 note
For Easter, tumblr did the thing where it unfollowed people for me. ty tumblr
3 days ago · 3 notes
oh my fucking god
Context - Amy Schumer is a comedian who did this sketch to show what a “realistic” military video game might look like for women in light of sexual assault and conviction statistics in the US military (so trigger warning if you click though the video contains nothing graphic, but def deals with gameified sexual assault and victim blaming). Coupled with the rampant misogyny in AAA titles in general (that link has lotssss of examples; I know Heavy Rain shocked me in particular in spite of the fact that I thought it was an excellent game overall) it’s a lil more than just a ~hilarious video~ or whatever (whether or not you think its commentary is successful)
personally I think this is a pretty clever response to the machismo bro~~~ factor of military games, the really insensitive ways some games deal with violence, esp violence against women, esp sexual violence against women, and also even the way romance/relationships are treated in games… which is not to say sexual assault ought to fall under the same umbrella, but the total lack of depth present in this fake game’s treatment of a military sexual assault investigation made me laugh only because it reminds me of the really game-y ways that romantic relationships work in, for example, Bioware RPGs (I say as a huuuge fan of Bioware RPGs).